Why Do You Call Me Good? An OT Answer for a NT Question
https://youtu.be/JO2luTJp1uc
Even though Mike Winger isn't a trained scholar like the kind of experts I usually like to link to in this blog, the following playlist of videos has pastor Mike Winger showing the places in the Old Testament where he believes Jesus is found in prophecies, types, shadows, emblems etc. I don't agree with everything he says, but most of what he does say are things most Trinitarians like myself would say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlpQauXiTU&list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHsHyvMtfgOgSPU6zEnCvxUO
The following link is to an article that briefly explains Robert M. Bowman Jr. and J. Ed Komoszewski's acronym H.A.N.D.S. which they used in their EXCELLENT book Putting Jesus in His Place:The Case for the Deity of Christ to defend the fully Deity of Jesus Christ.
A H.A.N.D.S. Approach to Showing Jesus is God
I highly recommend reading Robert M. Bowman Jr. and J. Ed Komoszewski's book Putting Jesus in His Place:The Case for the Deity of Christ. If you can, get the revised edition.
Here's an excellent article by Jonathan McLatchie where he responds to Bart Ehrman on Jesus being Yahweh
Yes, Bart Ehrman, Jesus is Yahweh by Jonathan McLatchie
It is now commonly recognized by scholars that 1 Cor. 8:6 is a Christianized version of the Shema. It has become a central plank of the Early High Christology thesis held by many prominent scholars. Interestingly, the following article I've linked to below offers an argument for why the Apostle Paul's usual greeting "God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ" might be a Christianized form of the Jewish Shema of Deut. 6:4 as translated from the Hebrew to the Greek of the Septuagint/LXX.
SEE ALSO:
Apostolic Salutations (Part One); Q&A
by Anthony Rogers
https://youtu.be/uml7b9lReyk
Apostolic Salutations (Part Two); Live Q&A
by Anthony Rogers
https://youtu.be/FDT0hf8stLg
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.- Mark 13:32 ESV
Mark 13:32 is the number one verse used by atheists and anti-Trinitarians to argue that Jesus wasn't omniscient. There are a number of passages in the New Testament that appear to show that Jesus wasn't omniscient. As a Trinitarian I usually explain them by appealing to the two minds view of Christ [popularized by Thomas V. Morris' book The Logic of God Incarnate] whereby Christ's divine mind is omniscient while His human mind is not omniscient. However, that explanation doesn't fully work in responding to Mark 13:32 because it doesn't address the problem that the Holy Spirit isn't accounted for. It would still leave the Holy Spirit not omniscient, contrary to 1 Cor. 2:10 which states, "For the [Holy] Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God." One could get around that by saying that the Lord Jesus didn't intend to include the Holy Spirit in the equation. While that works, it probably won't satisfy most atheists and anti-Trinitarian theists. The following videos answer the problem of Mark 13:32 in a way that does overcome all the problems. All three videos describe in varying depth the solution that I initially resisted when I first encountered it. However, it makes a lot more sense to me nowadays. See also my blogpost Jesus' Omniscience where I present the positive Biblical evidence for Jesus' omniscience. I've linked to it a second time at the very bottom of this blogpost.
The a longer clip of the above video is on another YouTube channel here:
https://youtu.be/6Y3qf1aRTkA
Dr. Tony Costa interviews Dr. Igal German on how some in the Messianic Jewish movement are teaching heresies that deny the doctrine of the Trinity.
The following is a question I asked a Unitarian on Facebook, and which I think every Trinitarian should ask Unitarians about:
[Mr. Unitarian], I'm curious, do you believe that Rev. 22:12-13 is Jesus or the Father? The person there is referred to with three titles, "the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
I believe it's the Son, as I argued here:
https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2014/03/revelation-2212-13-and-deity-of-christ.html
If it is the Son, then it seems to me that the book of Revelation is clearly teaching the full Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. But I don't even have to appeal to Rev. 22:12-13. Since Rev. 1:17 and 2:8 have Jesus referring to Himself as "first and the last". That's a title for Almighty God found in the book of Isaiah. Moreover, it's a title that should uniquely apply to the one true God since it's a claim to be the source and author of all created things. It's equivalent to "Alpha and Omega" as well as "Beginning and End". Because just as an author creates and controls all the letters in his literary work from the beginning to end of the work, including every use of every letter in that book or literary corpus [from Alpha to Omega (in Greek); Aleph to Tav (in Hebrew); A to Z (in English)], SO IN THE SAME WAY Almighty God is the source and sovereign over His creation. Jesus referring to Himself as the "first and last" [if not also "alpha and omega" & "beginning and end" in Rev. 22:12-13] is a clear claim to being Yahweh/Yehovah given the FAMOUS passages in Isaiah.
Isa. 41:4 Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.
Isa. 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
Isa. 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called! I am he; I am the first, and I am the last.
The author of Revelation expects his readers to be well acquainted with the Old Testament.
As E.W. Bullinger wrote in his Commentary on Revelation:
//////////The Hebrew character of the book [of Revelation] is shown in its use of idioms, expressions, words and phrases, which cannot be called Greek; and indeed is called by many "bad Greek."
Professor Godet in his Studies on the New Testament, says, p. 331: "The only serious objection that can be urged against the authenticity of the Apocalypse, lies in the difference which is observable between its style, and that of the fourth Gospel. The latter is free from Aramaic expressions, the former is saturated with them." And again (p. 351), "the Apocalypse bears, from one end of it to the other, the character of a Hebrew prophecy."................Though the language is Greek, the thoughts and idioms are Hebrew; and this links it on, not to the Pauline epistles, but to the Old Testament,...............It is not only Hebrew in character as to its linguistic peculiarities, but especially in its use of the Old Testament. Only those who have most intimate acquaintance with the Old Testament can properly understand the Apocalypse. But all who know anything of old Testament history cannot fail to detect the almost constant reference to it.................But it is when we come to look at the literary connection between the Old Testament and the Apocalypse that we find evidences of the most striking kind.
If we count up the number of Old Testament passages quoted or alluded to in the New Testament,* we find that the gospel of Matthew has a very large number, amounting in all to 92. The Epistle to the Hebrews comes higher still with 102. Now both these books are connected in a special manner with Israel. Matthew, it is universally admitted, stands out among the four Gospels as being specially Jewish in its character. And the Epistle to the Hebrews was specially written to Hebrews, and they are addressed as such.................Now, when we turn to the Apocalypse, what do we find? The result which to our mind is overwhelming. No less than 285 references to the Old Testament. More than three times as many as Matthew, and nearly three times as many as the Epistle to the Hebrews.//////////
As a Protestant I would obviously not agree with everything said/taught/written in Catholic scholar Brant Pitre's materials. Nevertheless, some of his arguments are worth sharing. In this video Pitre provides evidence that the Holy Spirit is Divine from the story of Pentecost
As a Protestant I would obviously not agree with everything said/taught/written in Catholic scholar Brant Pitre's materials. Nevertheless, some of his arguments are worth sharing. There was a really good video on YouTube where Pitre defended Jesus' full Deity based on His walking on water after having fed the 5000, but the video was taken down. The following videos by Brant aren't as good as that original video, but they include some of his arguments.
Note, Jesus says "ego eimi" (I am or I AM) in all three Gospels that record this incident (Mark 6:50, Matt. 14:27 & John 6:20). In the following videos Pitre shows why the incident is meant to be understood to be a theophany. The coincidences are wayyyyy too many.
The first video comes close to addressing everything in the original video that I referred to above. The discussion of Jesus walking on water begins at 7 minutes and 20 seconds. But I recommend listening to the entire video.
The Case for Jesus Course Introduction: Is Jesus Divine in the Synoptic Gospels?
https://youtu.be/PCDXj3uaDC0
The next two videos are supplementary. The first video above expresses most of what I wanted to posted in this blogpost. This second video adds the point about how Jesus' statement "ego eimi" in response to the disciples' fear parallels Old Testament times when Almighty God would say "fear not." As well as how in the Old Testament the common human response to theophanies was for the humans encountering them to be afraid.
The following is Robert Bowman's classic defense for the Biblical basis for the Trinity. It's a foundational work that every one should read to get an understanding of why Trinitarians think the doctrine of the Trinity is Biblical.
The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity by Robert M. Bowman Jr.
http://irr.org/biblical-basis-of-doctrine-of-trinity
(last updated 2021-11-04)
In a facebook group a Unitarian argued, “Nowhere in the New Testament do the Apostles command that one must confess the deity of Jesus to be saved.”
The following is adapted from my quick response [with minor changes]:
I disagree. I think it's normative for the reception of salvation to affirm the fully deity of Jesus according to the New Testament. Though, I don't believe it's an absolutely necessary requirement to believe it or of the full and true Deity of the Holy Spirit in order for one to be saved. There are many extenuating circumstances. For example, one becomes a Christian moments before his death and doesn't have time to study the issue. Maybe the person doesn't have the free time, mental aptitude or opportunity to study the issue for financial, geographic or historical reasons. Many Christians in the Middle Ages, for example, didn't have a copy of the Bible nearby and were illiterate. Hypothetical examples could be multiplied. But back to the issue....
The description says "deity" which is a lower standard than FULL deity [or as being Yahweh/Yehovah], but I'll defend the higher claim. The lower claim is too simple to demonstrate [e.g. John 1:1; 20:28]. I can immediately think of at least 5 places [among many more] where the New Testament implicitly or explicitly requires a belief in the full Deity of Jesus for salvation.
In no particular order.
#1
Romans 10:13 and context quotes and applies Joel 2:32 to Jesus. The original OT context is that of calling upon the name of Yehovah/Yahweh. Therefore, the NT predicates that Jesus is Yahweh. Compare 1 Cor. 1:2 where Christians are described as those who "in every place CALL ON the name of Jesus Christ our Lord."
#2
1 Cor. 8:6 has Paul adjusting the Shema of the Greek Septuagint and including Jesus into it as the "one Lord". One would think that he would have reserved the phrase "one Lord" for the Father. Apparently, Paul applied it to Jesus to affirm Jesus is Yahweh along with the Father. If Unitarianism were true, one would expect "one Lord" [with the background of tetragrammaton in the Hebrew] to be used of the Father and "one God" to be used to refer to Jesus since in the Hebrew understanding "elohim" could be used of lesser deities or supernatural entities other than Yehovah/Yahweh. Instead "one Lord" is used of Jesus. Therefore Jesus is as fully Yahweh as the Father.
#3
Philippians 2:10-11 adjusts and applies Isa. 45:23 to Jesus. When Isa. 45:23 is arguably the most monotheistic VERSE in the most monotheistic CHAPTER in the entire Tanakh [Old Testament]. It would be idolatry for Paul to do that if Jesus isn't also Yahweh along with the Father. Notice that Isa. 45:23 says people would 1. bow to and 2. pledge allegiance to Yahweh, yet in Phil. 2:10-11 it's a 1. bowing to and 2. a pledge of allegiance to Jesus [to the glory of God the Father].
#4
Jesus' statements of being "I am/Am" in John 8:24, 28, and 58 best fits with an affirmation and self-identification of being Yahweh.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." [The "he" in "that I am he" is not in the Greek].
https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/1990/01/01/purpose-and-meaning-of-ego-eimi-in-the-gospel-of-john/
James White's articles makes it clear beyond a reasonable doubt that Jesus is predicating Himself to be Yahweh. Virtually all Unitarian objections I've encountered to the Trinitarian interpretation of John 8:58 are cases of quibbling over possibilities rather than probabilities.
#5
Christian baptism is an act of worship and invocation of God. Yet in Matt. 28:19 Jesus teaches baptism in the [singular] Name of THE Father and of THE Son and of THE Holy Spirit. The definite article is before each person, so that rules out Modalism because it affirms the genuine distinctions between the persons. But it also rules out Unitarianism because it's NOT in the NameS [plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Nor is it, "in the name of the Father, and the name of the Son, and the name of the holy spirit". If the Holy Spirit weren't a person, why include the Holy Spirit anyway? The inclusion of the Holy Spirit in the singular Name bespeaks of His genuine personality and full divinity.
Remember that GMatthew was written specifically and primarily with a Jewish audience in mind. The word "name" in Hebrew has the connotation of nature, character, attributes, essence and the usual way one acts or behaves. That's why in Semitic cultures naming an infant with a specific meaning was so important. And that's why, for example, Prov. 18:20 says, "The name [i.e. nature & character] of the LORD is a strong tower; The righteous run to it and are safe." Also why Ps. 9:10 says, "And those who know Your name [i.e. nature & character] will put their trust in You; For You, LORD, have not forsaken those who seek You."
Moreover, the Old Testament has reverence for "The Name" which represented Yahweh Himself [e.g. Lev. 24:11].
Lev. 24:11 and the Israelite woman's son blasphemed the Name, and cursed. Then they brought him to Moses. His mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan.
Therefore, in all likelihood the author of Matthew is self-consciously including the Son and the Holy Spirit in "THE Name", and therefore as being part of the true God. This is why Jesus could be greater than the temple where YHVH Himself dwells [Matt. 12:6] and why the author records Jesus saying what He did in Matt. 18:20. Something which is an allusion to the well known Jewish saying, "Where two sit together to study the Torah, the Shekinah glory [i.e. the Divine Presence] rests between them." (Mishnah, Pirke Aboth 3:2)
Matt. 12:6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here.
How could Jesus be greater than the Temple where God Himself dwells, unless Jesus is God in the flesh? Remember that John 1:14 says "the Word became flesh and dwelt [literally "tabernacled"] among us".
Matt. 18:20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them."
See also the other blogposts I've posted in this Blog that argue for the Full Deity of Christ. The above are meant to be representative, not exhaustive.