Trinity Notes: The Most Important Blogposts in This Blog

Friday, December 30, 2050

The Most Important Blogposts in This Blog

This blogpost lists what I (subjectively) believe to be the most important blogposts in this blog. There are three sections. The first section is on the Deity of Christ. The second section is on the Trinity or the Plurality of God. The third section is on the Deity of the Holy Spirit. Each section has links to blogposts where the most important links (as I perceive it) are above, and with the lesser links below. For example, in the section on The Deity of Christ my blog "Identifying Jesus with Yahweh/Jehovah" (which is nearer the top) is much more important than my blogpost "The Spirit of Jesus" (which is near the bottom of the section).

Here's my main Resources in Defense of Trinitarianism

Here's a link to my blogpost where I've collected links to outside blogs where I've commented and interacted with others on the topic of the Trinity: Blog Comments on the Trinity

The Deity of Christ

Brief Selective Survey of Christ's Full Deity in the Synoptics

Melchizedek Resembles the Son of God, Not the Other Way Around

The Trinity demonstrated from The Lord's Prayer

Interactions with Well Known Unitarian and Philosopher Dale Tuggy

Does the New Testament Require Belief in the Full Deity of Jesus For the Reception of Salvation?

Response to Two Unitarian Articles on John 8:58

The Trinity or Plurality of God

The Great Mystery; or, How Can Three Be One? [The Trinity in Early Judaism]

Interactions with Mike Gantt

Part One: F[L]air-minded Reinvention of the Wheel

Part Two: Do Rocks Dream of Ceramic Sheep? OR Jade Runner

Some eye opening articles from the Jews for Jesus website:

Jewishness and the Trinity

The Trinity: Questions and Answers

A Look at the Trinity From a Messianic Jewish Perspective

Kabbalah's Best Kept Secret?

27 comments:

Paul GMay 31, 2017 at 3:20 AM
Hi ANNOYED PINOY, I'm Paul, and thank you for your link to this post of the trinity.
But that is simply not true, those are mans doctrines and assumptions and they are just not true.
Look A.P. we both know that THREE can never be ONE, no matter how hard they try to amalgamate the truth with a lie.
If the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT the Father, then the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father are TWO. But Jesus said, "I and the Father are ONE" (John 10:30), consequently Jesus and the Father are ONE and the same.
Even, if Jesus is in union with another person called Father, then they still are TWO who are in union with each other.

And remember, Jesus said that he who has seen Me has seen the Father (John 14:9).

Obviously there is no trinity in the Bible, and trinitarians make out God to be some kind of a Siamese triplet, perhaps joined at the hips :-)
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Paul GMay 31, 2017 at 7:18 PM
Thank you A.P. for your response, I appreciate that.
Yes I am familiar with every trinitarian claim and with every flavor of this great deception called the trinity :-)
The Lord Jesus Christ has granted me to expose this evil and wicked doctrine called the trinity. That's why most of my posts and comments are against this doctrine who misleads the inquiring heart of those who sincerely want to know God.

I think that the Doctrine of God is the most important doctrine which is far above all other doctrines. If any man errs on that doctrine, he most likely will errs on all other doctrines of the Bible.

Before any man can understand the doctrine of God he or she must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and in His Word the Bible. By that I mean BELIEVE, not only acknowledge Jesus. He or she must start with the Lord Jesus Christ and end up with the Lord Jesus Christ, or their doctrine is false.

The problem and deception comes when people believe the theologians rather than the Lord Jesus Christ.
Theologians are good speakers who know how to cook up the wildest concoctions of nonsensical theories to confuse the simple minded who inquire of the Lord.
Perhaps go to their churches and listen to their converts how they pray to a God they do not know through a little god whom they call Jesus, and then they say at the end of their prayers, "in Jesus Name". Well, of course they call that the trinity, praying to one god through another god, and then with brazen faces they say that the THREE are ONE.
And when those theologians are exposed of their folly they turn to the Greek language or Hebrew and Aramaic to hide their ignorance.

Perhaps you can see that I do not have a good opinion of those theologians and I recommend that everyone would believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. Theologians are NOT the truth and neither do they know the truth, for if they would know the truth they would preach the truth and the truth is Jesus Christ who claims to be the truth (John 14:6).
Therefore whoever believes and is preaching Jesus Christ, believes and preaches the truth, and whoever believes the theologians and preach their doctrines, promotes deceptions.

And by no means do trinitarians understand the doctrine of God, otherwise they would confess JESUS Christ as Lord, but as it is, they say that Jesus is NOT Lord (meaning God) alone. They say that Jesus Christ is lord with another entity called the Father.

Look A.P. If the Lord Jesus Christ is NOT your Father who is in heaven, then tell me, WHO then is your Father who is in heaven ?
Remember, for unto us is but ONE God and that is the Father (1 Corinthians 8:6), and next to the Father is NO other God. Therefore the Father IS the Lord Jesus Christ just as He has said (John 14:9 and John 10:30).

Not only that, the Scriptures commands you and everyone to worship the FATHER in Spirit and in truth (John 4:23), and look! whom did they worship in Spirit and in truth (Matthew 28:9) ?

Obviously, they worshipped the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. They took hold of His feet and worshipped Him.
They surely knew and understood the first and the second commandment of the Lord (Exodus 20:5).
I'm glad they listen to the Lord Jesus Christ and NOT to the theologians ;-)
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ANNOYED PINOYJune 2, 2017 at 6:01 PM
Paul G, I noticed that Steve closed comments on his blogpost. I posted more, but I don't know if Steve will approve my final posts. Sometimes he does approve of them. Anyway, here are my final comments. If you want to comment afterwards, you can, but I may not. In which case, you can have the last word.

...and the Lord Jesus Christ has granted me to expose that evil and wicked doctrine the trinity who has caused the nations and most of the churches to be lead astray.

Merely calling the doctrine of the Trinity wicked doesn't make it so. While it's true that some professed Trinitarians and Trinitarian denominations have sometimes done terrible things, in general God seems to have blessed Trinitarianism. Since the 4th century the greatest conservative Bible scholars have been Trinitarians. Along with the greatest theologians, apologists, evangelists, Bible exegetes/interpreters, missionaries, missionary agencies etc. It has been the Trinitarians who have had the best Bible translations, have had the greatest impact in advancing the Kingdom of God, have had the greatest revivals (e.g. the Reformation, The Great Awakening, the Second Great Awakening, etc.). It's been Trinitarians who have had the greatest reports of signs and wonders/miracles throughout Church History (and at present). Trinitarians who have built hospitals, colleges, universities, orphanages etc.

Where are the denominations which preach your Christology? What impact have they had? What are there Bible translations and Bible commentaries?

Please look around you and see, most of the churches are dead, perhaps as dead as a doornail.

You need to look outside your home country (whichever that is). Also, not only see things in terms of geography, but also in terms of world history and the past. At present it's the Trinitarians who have the best apologists. At present its Trinitarianism that's growing fastest globally around the world compared to competing Paterologies, Christologies and Pneumatologies.

And look and see, the mental asylums and hospitals are full of trinitarians, they all say that they believe in Jesus.

That shouldn't be surprising since Trinitarianism is the most common/popular understanding of the Biblical Triad. Similarly, there are more supernaturalists than atheists in jails. That doesn't make atheism true or supernaturalism false. It only makes sense that since the majority of Earth's population are supernaturalists (e.g. Christians, Jews, Muslims, New Agers, Occultists, Hindus etc.), that the majority of people in prisons are supernaturalists.

Now, if that ‘God’, here in the beginning for you is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, then it will be impossible for you to understand the rest of the Bible.

But you haven't addressed the passages I've cited that show that the personal distinctions between the persons of the Trinity existed both sans creation and from the beginning of creation. The beginning verses of the gospel of John tell us that both the Father and the Word together created the universe. In Genesis we know that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters at creation. I cited 1 Cor. 8:6 which says that God created through the Son. Then there's also Heb. 1:2, Col. 1:16ff which also teach that the Father created THROUGH the Son.

Remember (Colossians 1:15-20 and John 1:3-10), that everything was created by the Lord Jesus Christ and for the Lord Jesus Christ and nothing came into being apart from the Lord Jesus.

Actually, Col. 1:16 and John 1:3 explicitly state that creation was performed THROUGH the AGENCY of the Son. It doesn't say that only the person of the Son was there.

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Paul GJune 4, 2017 at 1:12 AM
Hi A.P. I think that Steve doesn’t post anymore comments. Hmmm, sad.
But again I like to say that I appreciate that you have the courage to take up the challenge concerning that destructive doctrine the trinity.
That is rare and most saints run to the hills when they are confronted with that so obvious nonsensical doctrine as the trinity.

On my blog I have an instant and unrestricted comment section where everybody can say whatever they like and however they like and in whatever tone they like. There are no rules and I never delete any comments whether they are good or bad, favorable or unfavorable, whether they call me good names or bad names makes no difference, and they can change the topic at any point and time they like.

I think that we are living in a time where Christians are not willing to put up with sound doctrines but yield to unbiblical and destructive doctrines like the doctrine of the trinity, which I claim to be the epitome and the masterpiece of Satan’s deception.
And by believing those doctrines they, the trinitarians become derailed and suffer the consequences their folly.

I want you to know A.J. , that I am NOT against you, but rather, that I am FOR YOU.
I do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities in wicked places, and sometimes we will be hurt in that process.
It is like when the men engage in warfare, cuts and bruises are unavoidable.

OK, to your comments.
First, I do not comment in order to have the last word, and neither do I comment in order to be right. I do not have a puffed up ego who needs to be satisfied, I rather be wrong if I can win you for Jesus Christ who is the ONLY God our savior. (Jude 1:25).
And neither do I have a hidden agenda but a plain and simple agenda which is to win you FOR the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE and NO OTHER.

I call the trinity doctrine wicked because it divides the ONLY God who is ONE into TWO, as a matter of fact into THREE.
This wicked doctrine teaches contrary to the Scriptures, saying that God did NOT created everything all ALONE (Isaiah 44:24) it teaches contrary to Isaiah 44:24, saying that God created everything “THROUGH” someone else, just as you have said.

A.P. you are old enough to know that, when God created ALL things ALONE, He didn’t meant ‘THROUGH’ someone else.
Only someone with a perverted deceiving interest would try to twist the Scriptures and say and teach such a wicked doctrines.
The moment anyone is willingly to accept such a blatant lie, deception has entered such a man.
From here on such a man WILL believe everything which is false, and will find justification from other men and from other books and texts and languages etc.

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Paul GJune 4, 2017 at 1:15 AM
A.P. the name Jehovah is absolutely NOT ONCE mentioned in all the verses you have quoted. NO A.P. NOT even ONCE ! Just open the Bible and read it (Gen. 4:6, 13:4, 21:33, 26:25, Exodus 6:3, 15:3, 20:7 Psalm 7:17, 8:1, 8:9, 20:7, 30:4, 54:6, 68:4, 83:18, 96:2, 97:12).
You see, NOT ONCE ! you are making that up because you don’t want to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
The Jehovah Witnesses know the Bible, and even they will tell you that the name Jehovah is not written in the Bible, they say that the name Jehovah is RENDERED out of the four letters YHWH.
But I say that the Jehovah Witnesses and the trinitarians need a wild imagination to cook up a name from YHWH.
The Jehovah Witnesses are equally deceived just as all trinitarians.
Seemingly you believe those trinitarian gurus more than you believe the Scriptures.

Remember, the Lord Jesus said that if you do NOT know that HE is the God of all the Scriptures YOU will die in your sins (John 8:24).

And, do you want me to tell you what that means in English ?
Just read the Bible and believe what it says in the Bible A.P.
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Paul GJune 4, 2017 at 1:28 AM
Also, for anyone who reads this comment and is a trinitarian who honestly desires to know and understand the Scriptures.
Here is a key, an important fact which everyone needs to know.
Please read it slowly and think about it.

Because the Lord Jesus Christ is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last (Revelation 2:8), therefore the Lord Jesus Christ is without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life (Hebrews 7:3).

THEREFORE the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, must by necessity speak metaphorically (which is FIGURATIVELY) about the FATHER.

About the Father, Jesus said, “These things I have spoken to you in ‘FIGURATIVE’ language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in FIGURATIVE language, but I will tell you PLAINLY of the Father.” (John 16:25)

Therefore, every time WITHOUT EXCEPTION, when the Lord Jesus Christ is speaking about the Father, He is speaking metaphorically.

OK, for all of you who have been ensnared or derailed by this UNBIBLICAL and evil doctrine the trinity, consider the High Priestly prayer of the Lord Jesus Christ in John chapter 17.

Because the Lord Jesus Christ is WITHOUT sin, therefore He does NOT need to pray, (GOD does not need to pray).
ONLY sinners need to pray like YOU and ME, but certainly NOT the Lord of glory Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
So then, WHY did the Lord Jesus pray (John 17) ?

No, you don’t need to know what it means in GREEK and in HEBREW, you need to know in English why the Lord Jesus prayed.
And for everyone of you who does not know, the reason is, because you have FALSE teachers and Shepherds over you who do not tell you the truth.
And obviously you don’t listen to the warnings of the Lord.

And since I am exposing this UNBIBLICAL, evil and wicked doctrine the trinity. Therefore tell me, if you would believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last (Rev. 2:8), then TO WHOM was the Lord Jesus speaking on the cross of Calvary, when He said, 'Father forgive them for they do not know what they do' ?

To ANOTHER Alpha and Omega ?? :-)

Please tell me, if you know ?
Perhaps, if you would use the KEY, maybe you could know :-)
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Paul GJune 4, 2017 at 3:44 PM
steve6/02/2017 10:41 AM☍

"Trinitarians are skilled in deception and say that 'YHWH' is the name of God, and that is certainly NOT true! YHWH are four letters meaning absolutely NOTHING. You cannot even pronounce those four letters."

That's such an ignorant argument. The original Hebrew text is a consonantal text, so none of the words in the OT has vowels. By your logic, that means the OT doesn't have any names for anyone or anything. No proper names or place names, since all we have are consonants. By your logic, "Abraham" is not a name, "Joseph" is not a name, "Noah" is not a name, "David" is not a name, "Jeremiah" is not a name, "Zion" is not a name, "Egypt" is not a name, "Jerusalem" is not a name, &c., since it's just a consonantal text!

What your argument overlooks is the distinction between the spoken word and the written word, or how the spoken were was represented in writing. Speakers knew how Hebrew words were pronounced, so when they read a text, they mentally supplied the vowels.

This is the comment from Steve’s blog.

You see A.P. it looks like Steve is not going to answer. Well, trinitarians have that problem, when they are exposed of their utterly blatant nonsensical doctrine of the trinity, they just don’t talk to you anymore. :-) They run to the hills :-)

Tell me, which argument is ignorant ? That nobody is able to pronounce those four letters YHWH?
Certainly Steve, you and I are not able to pronounce those four letters.

Steve said, “The original Hebrew text is a consonantal text, so none of the words in the OT has vowels.”

What, am I reading you correctly, NONE of the OT words have vowels ?
Tell me, how many vowels does the name ‘Noah’ have ? and how many vowels does the name ‘David’ have ? Or Jeremiah, Abraham etc. ?

Well, we don’t need to look very far to see an ignorant argument.
If trinitarians don’t know what a vowel is in English, how will they know what a vowel is in Hebrew.

The reason for trinitarians NOT to believe the Bible is, because they are scared that their folly and deception might be exposed.

As for you A.P. guard your heart with ALL diligence and don’t believe that devilish doctrine the trinity.
Paul :-)
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Paul GJune 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM
Hi A.P, God is certainly NOT a plurality as those trinitarian theologians teach.
Throughout the entire Bible God is not even ONCE addressed plural (they), NO, not even ONCE !
He is ALWAYS called 'HE' ! Without exception. That is because HE alone is God.

Only theologians who don't know God would teach that kind of nonsense.
They teach those lies because they don't want to call the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth "LORD".
And (Genesis 1:26) does NOT say that there were three God-persons in the beginning.

I think that those trinitarians don't read their Bibles properly, and neither do thy understand the Scriptures.
If they would understand the Scriptures, they would give all the glory to the Lord Jesus Christ and to NO other. But as it is they are ignorant of the knowledge of God.

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ANNOYED PINOYJune 7, 2017 at 7:50 PM
...concerning that destructive doctrine the trinity...........with that so obvious nonsensical doctrine as the trinity.

Calling it destructive and nonsensical doesn't make it so. The very Puritans you allude to thought the doctrine of the Trinity as essential and glorious.

I call the trinity doctrine wicked because it divides the ONLY God who is ONE into TWO, as a matter of fact into THREE.

No the doctrine of the Trinity does not "divide" God into three. It distinguishes the three persons who share the one indivisible being of God.

This wicked doctrine teaches contrary to the Scriptures, saying that God did NOT created everything all ALONE (Isaiah 44:24) it teaches contrary to Isaiah 44:24, saying that God created everything “THROUGH” someone else, just as you have said.

You nee to read the OT in light of the fuller, brighter and clearer teaching of the NT. And the NT clearly teaches that God the Father created through the Son (as I've cited in my comments to you in this blogpost as well as at Steve's blogpost).

A.P. the name Jehovah is absolutely NOT ONCE mentioned in all the verses you have quoted. NO A.P. NOT even ONCE !

Your statement goes contrary to the views of virtually ALL theologians and Bible commentaries both Christian, Jewish, Secular, before the time of Christ, and after the time of Christ. It's the most ridiculous position to take. No scholar hold to such an unBiblical and unhistorical position. Your view is such a minority view that it's virtually non-existent. All of Christian and Jewish history contradicts your view that God didn't have a Covenant name in the OT Age and that He didn't reveal it.

The Jehovah Witnesses know the Bible, and even they will tell you that the name Jehovah is not written in the Bible, they say that the name Jehovah is RENDERED out of the four letters YHWH.

Steve Hays already addressed this. The original OT was a consonantal text. Just like every other word and name in the OT, so God's name had to have vowels read into them. Above I already linked to resources where I suspect the original vowel pointing has been recovered and rediscovered.

Seemingly you believe those trinitarian gurus more than you believe the Scriptures.

Seemingly you believe yourself against the avalanche of evidences, arguments and scholars on my side that God did reveal His covenant name to the Jews in the Old Testament. It takes a lot of hubris to assume one is right against all the evidences, arguments and scholarship.

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Paul GJune 13, 2017 at 7:14 PM
Well A.P. why do you defend the doctrine of the trinity if it is not even taught in the Bible ?
For sure, in your heart you must know that the doctrine of the trinity doesn’t make sense ?

To me it sounds like a bunch of theologians throwing three persons or entities into a bucket and then they call the bucket ‘God’.

If they are exposed of their nonsense, then they quickly change from persons to entities, to aspects and then to essence and then to the meaning of certain words in other languages etc. and there is no end with their deception.

If that doesn’t show you that they don’t know God and are ignorant of the knowledge of God, then what does ?
If someone knows God, surely, such a one could say who God is.
If someone knows who his natural Father is, he will tell you immediately the name of his natural father. But trinitarians will always say that their God is THREE and HE has many names.

Well A.P. you don’t need to look very far to see their ignorance.
34 years ago I also believed that lie, therefore I fully know what they are talking about.

The whole world is standing before ONE God and that God is the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Jesus Christ ALONE is the Alpha and the Omega and He does NOT share Deity with OTHER entities. And HE is NOT a plurality !
God is Spirit (John 4:24) and He caused Himself to be born into His own creation through a virgin and His only one Name is called JESUS (Matthew 1:25) who is the Christ, God with us Emmanuel.
And to all trinitarians the Lord Jesus said that they will die in their sins unless they believe and know that the Lord Jesus Christ is the only God
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Jesse AlbrechtApril 23, 2018 at 4:59 PM
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GaryNovember 18, 2021 at 4:46 PM
Why didn't the high priest in the Gospel of Mark accuse Jesus of claiming to be God if the Jesus depicted in the Gospel of John was telling crowds on numerous occasions that he was God? Jesus never claimed to be God and the Trinity is a human invention.

https://lutherwasnotbornagaincom.wordpress.com/2021/11/18/why-didnt-the-chief-priest-accuse-jesus-of-claiming-to-be-god/
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MaiaAugust 22, 2023 at 1:26 PM
friend, Jesus is not the 2nd person of a triune god, but He is Almighty God Himself. For that which is begotten of the SPIRIT (father) is that same SPIRIT (son) and not a separate entity John 3.6

father/son is a SPIRITUAL constellation of ONE ALMIGHTY GOD being in heaven and on earth at the same time reconciling the world back to Himself. 2 Sam 7 14…

It is vital that you believe in the LOVE of God His SELF sacrifice, not a selfish sacrifice of a literal father sending his literal son to be sacrificed.

May the Everlasting Father Jesus bless you
Ps you can read me on YT under “faithful servant serving”
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ANNOYED PINOYAugust 21, 2024 at 1:51 PM
Other blog links I might eventually add to THIS blog

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2024/08/why-is-holy-spirit-missing-in-matt-1127.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2024/04/answering-unitarian-objection-that.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2023/01/response-to-two-unitarian-articles-on.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2023/01/responses-to-unitarian-20230116.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2023/04/upcoming-blogposts.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2022/06/my-outer-and-inner-trinitarian-options.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2022/01/quotations-from-early-church-fathers.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/11/why-do-trinitarian-prooftexts-have-so.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/10/some-unitarians-pray-to-jesus.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-trinity-demonstrated-from-lords.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/05/does-mark-1332-disprove-jesus.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/05/excerpts-from-conversation-i-had-on.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/05/a-question-to-ask-unitarians-regarding.html

ALREADY ADDED?

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/05/does-new-testament-require-belief-in.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/04/melchizedek-resembles-son-of-god-not.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/03/wayne-grudem-reverses-his-views-now.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2021/02/is-word-of-lord-ever-described-as-he-or.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2020/05/articles-in-defense-of-granville-sharps.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2019/05/exegesis-of-samuel-3-and-word-of.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-word-of-lord-in-targums.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2018/03/why-dont-synoptics-have-jesus-claiming.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2016/05/do-father-and-son-love-holy-spirit.html

https://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2015/11/worshipping-merely-human-jesus-is-wrong.html

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