The Irony of the Jehovah's Witnesses' Name
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See my blogpost where I show many other ways the New Testament connects Jesus with YHVH.
Friday, July 3, 2020
The Irony of the Jehovah's Witnesses' Name
See my blogpost where I show many other ways the New Testament connects Jesus with YHVH.
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Annoyed, I am wondering about your thoughts on Sophia being created in Prov 8 and Tuggy saying the Logos is a created personification. How do you respond to that?
ReplyDeleteIt's not clear that Wisdom in Prov. 8 is an allusion to the preexistent and pre-incarnate Christ. Some Christian theologians (past and present) say "yes" [e.g. some church fathers], others say "no". I'm not convinced either way. Since it's not clearly about Christ, we shouldn't be dogmatic. Based on the reality of Progressive Revelation and the exegetical principles of the Analogy of Faith, the New Testament's clearer doctrine of Christ should take precedence when developing our Christology. Since the NT teaches Jesus is [in some sense] Yahweh/Yehovah, non-created, and eternal, then the interpretation of Prov. 8 should match with that NT teaching even if we assume it is a passage about the preexistent/pre-incarnate Christ.
ReplyDelete//and Tuggy saying the Logos is a created personification//
I'm not sure that Tuggy teaches that. But it doesn't matter. He's not the only one who has suggested that. We have to remember there's a difference between the Logos being created and the Logos being begotten or being an emanation of God. The church fathers were often inconsistent with each other and even with themselves (i.e. their later writings disagree with their earlier ones). My knowledge of their views is limited, but as I understand it few believed the Logos was created. Since it would make the Logos a creature. Most thought of the Logos as a kind of emanation or was the begotten Son. Sometimes the emanation or begetting was before creation and/or all ages/times, or afterwards. Sometimes AT or simultaneous to creation. There are a whole bunch of other permutations which I won't get into. Nevertheless, much of it is speculative. The best we can do is harmonize all of Scripture's teaching concerning the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and when we do, I'm of the opinion that we get something like the doctrine of the Trinity.
Tuggy holds to humanitarian Unitarianism with respect to Christ. He believes only the Father is the one true God and that Jesus was only human without a personal preexistence. These type of Unitarians sometimes believe in Christ's non-personal "preexistence" in that Christ was planned in the mind of God long before Jesus was born. There are other Unitarians who believe in Christ's preexistence [e.g. Arians, Semi-Arians etc.].
Trinitarianism affirms the personal preexistence of the pre-incarnate Christ. As I told you before, I recommend you read my other blogposts and watch Anthony Rogers YouTube videos on the topic of the Trinity. Many of which I've linked to in my blogposts.